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Okay, let's see how things had shifted, in terms of the canon, slightly more than a decade after the 1974 appraisal by the critics of t... -
Onto the third installment of this series - the NME 's list of the Greatest Albums of All Time, published on October 2 1993. Here, it... -
I have written before about the Drops Away Syndrome... that thing where artists seem supremely relevant and core-canonic at a particular mo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIEDhrf_2rc Not connected (though the chap is reliably scatological), but this is Yahtzee Croshaw, perhaps the most esteemed, and certainly the most popular, video game critic around, explaining how he relates the concept of post-punk to the most inventive indie games. What other art forms have had a post-punk (or even just punk) period?
ReplyDeletePostpunk, not sure, but punk - plenty I should think. Although knowingly referencing it as the influence and aspiration, perhaps, which might be different from organically generating such a thing which in itself.
DeleteComedy (Young Ones, shouty Alexei Sayle etc)
Science fiction (cyberpunk)
Modern Dance
Underground cinema (all that No wave era lo budget film making, also mumblecore later, also Dogme)
Movements like these also existed long before punk: Dada in art, the American avant-garde, French New Wave and other New Waves in Japan, Brazil and Eastern Europe in '60s cinema. If anything, the emergence of punk and post-punk were signs rock music had been around long enough to question itself the way artists in other media had.
ReplyDeleteFuturism too.
DeleteModernism kind of enshrined a punk-like principle or incorporated within itself a punk-like mechanism - reactive against, repudiating of, the previous art phase.
So by that logic, is the punk period of an artform a demonstration that it's become respectable?
DeleteThe punk-like initiative is a reaction to the becoming-bourgeois and palatable of the previous rebellious art move.
DeleteUnfortunately the gap between being shocking and being acceptable / accepted got shorter and shorter - people were commenting on this tendency as early as 1960s - and so the whole game starts to seem ridiculous.
I guess there are some things are beyond-the-pale for almost everyone - the Vienna Aktionists, orgy like ritual performances with blood and dead animals... stuff involving defecation... self-injuring... But that said I saw a bunch of their films in an exhibition at the Pompidou Centre so yeah really everything gets domesticated and viewers file through the museum numb and impassive.